Background:
In this episode, hosts Michael Mainelli and Adam Leon Smith welcome Mike Thieme, Managing Director and Cloud Advisory Lead at Accenture. Drawing on his early work in biometric standards since 2005 and extensive experience delivering AI for public and private sector clients, Mike explores the transition to generative AI and the vital need for “consumable” standards that busy professionals can actually use.
He shares insights from leading ISO/IEC projects on AI verification & validation and performance measurement for classification, regression, clustering, and recommendation systems. The discussion covers government AI adoption, reframing human oversight as “human in the lead,” challenges with metrics and reproducibility, and the importance of clear terminology, especially for agentic AI.
Adam’s recent paper AI Agents Under EU Law, which maps compliance architectures for autonomous AI agents, is available at https://arxiv.org/pdf/2604.04604.
A practical, hands-on episode on making AI standards actionable and measurable in the real world.
Guest:
Mike Thieme is the Managing Director and Cloud Advisory Lead at Accenture. Michael previously worked as the CTO and Senior VP of Novetta Solutions, before its acquisition by Accenture Federal Services in 2021. He leads the development of cutting-edge AI capabilities for public sector clients, focusing on responsible, trustworthy design and real-world impact.